I've heard Narayana Maharaj offended Sridhar Maharaj publicly and did not apologize publicly, but what kind of offense and do not know. anyone knows?

Who cares?

Please compare the above with what narayanna maharaja suggests is his superior veiw....it appears in conflict, even in disagreement with his own guru!

Narayana Maharaja, Venu-gita, introduction:
"Those who believe that only sadhakas who are completely free from all anarthas are eligible to hear the above-mentioned pastimes (of Krishna and the gopis), will neither become free from anarthas nor obtain eligibility to hear even after millions of births... Then how can this greed be obtained...Faithfully hearing the narrations of Sri Krishna's pastimes saturated with rasa from the lips of rasika Vaisnavas or by faithfully studying the literature related to the pastimes of Sri Krishna, composed by them, this greed may be obtained. Besides this, there is no other means."

Narayana Maharaja Going Beyond Vaikuntha Chapter Seven:
"Some people think that they will first become free from all offenses and anarthas, become pure by their own efforts, and then engage in bhajana, but that is absurd."

Narayana Maharaja Going Beyond Vaikuntha Chapter Seven:
"If one listens with faith to narrations of Krishna's pastimes with the gopis by anusrnuyad-- accepting a pure guru, an ideal rasika Vaisnava who knows bhagavat-tattva and then constantly hearing from him-- then exclusive sentiment will come to him. This sentiment is our everything, and it will arise in us and give us great happiness."
Narayana Maharaja, Venu-gita, text 12, page 37
"We should always hear and chant and remember Krishna's Vrindavana pastimes. A rasika devotee will learn only enough tattva-jnana to facilitate his entrance into the bhava he is attracted to. Then everything will develop and he will be able to enter the lila. If he always thinks of Krishna as the Supreme Lord, then his attraction for Krishna will be pre-dominated by aisvarya-jnana and he will not be able to enter Krishna's madhurya-lila. Therefore a rasika Vaisnava should not focus on Krishna in the way He is presented in Bhagavad-gita, as the Supreme God."


Narayana Maharaja, Venu-gita, text 17, page 55
"Therefore, we should only focus our attention on those things that are helpful to our madhurya-bhava, not those things which pertain to aisvarya-bhava."

Narayana Maharaja Germany December 13, 2001, evening:
"If one wants to love Krishna in mood of a mother or father, his guru should be an ocean of that mood. If one is in the mood of Sri Rupa Manjari and thinks, "I want my siddha (perfected spiritual form) to be that of the manjari followers of Rupa Manjari," then the guru should be already perfect in that. He must already have that siddha-deha, and he should be very favorable and causelessly merciful to the disciple. Only that person can be one's siksa-guru; not others. One should think, "A person may be very learned, but if he is not especially affection towards me, and if he does not possess the mood that I want, the mood that is in my svarupa, then he cannot be my siksa-guru Attaining Gopi or Manjari Bhava
Narayana Maharaja Los Angeles, California - May 31, 2000:
"If you are pure or impure, if you have somehow come in the line of Mahaprabhu, then in your constitutional form there must be something of gopi-bhava. Otherwise how could you have come?"

Narayana Maharaja Part Two of a Lecture Given in Los Angeles, California: May 13, 2001:
"You may have decided that your goal is gopi-prema or radha-prema, but you cannot achieve radha-prema. By your constitutional form you can only have the service of the gopis. Only the manjari mood, always serving the gopis, is possible for the jivas. [being a sakhi is not possible for a jiva]"

mano54:

There are many disciples of Sridhar Maharaj in Srila Narayana Maharajs` camp and Maharaj and his senior disciples always speak very respectfully of Srila Sridhar.
If there appears to be conflict between what SNM says and other Acaryas rather than risk committing aparadh,let us try to act like Vaisnavas and have the humility to accept we may not be qualified to understand these apparent differences,and then use our intelligence by inquiring from the author.

Sridhar Maharaja followers in London told me they don't want anything to do with NM followers. They think the whole approach of that Math is entirely bogus and they are more vehemently against them then anything I've seen in Iskcon. There analysis is much more convincing then Iskcons also.

There's a thin line between fault finding and being alert for the wrong. Also -- when being alert for the wrong and boldly protecting the legacy of your spiritual master's teachings -- it's okay to go on the attack but it's also wise to remember "principles before personalities." In fact -- you can take it to another level and remember to "hate the sin and not the sinner."

I've been called an offender and a blasphemer since the late 70's when I began speaking out against the so-called appointment of eleven godbrothers to the status of worshipable-on-vyasa-asanas-diksa-gurus. I wrote and spoke on the topic many times back then and I continue to. However -- I never took it to the personal level nor did I engage in character assassination. After all -- how can I possibly know or judge what is in each person's heart and why somebody might go off misinterpreting, misleading, misrepresenting. Sometimes it's unavoidable to point out who is doing what and why it is wrong and how it is wrong in the light of Guru, Sastra and Sadhu -- but even then -- in the particular situation I'm referring to (the chaos and terrible repercussions from the zonal acarya debacle -- I try to keep in mind that those same eleven godbrothers also, to their eternal credit, did wonderful service in helping Srila Prabhupada's mission to spread Krishna consciousness throughout the world and that if and when they are willing to humbly admit they were wrong that they can go on from there and continue to be vibrant dynamic forces serving the lotus feet of our guru maharaja.

Bhagavan prasada... is that you Sri Govinda das?

Kula-pavana:

Bhagavan prasada... is that you Sri Govinda das?

yes, he is. And user "bhakti" too.
to Sri govinda das from New Zealand: One more account created by you in this site and we will begin a campaign on the main internet sites informing about your practices. You are warned.

"I wrote the above with the fact in mind that when a particular article was published and posted on the Internet by a senior sannyasi in the Sri Caitanya Saraswat Math (I think it was called "Beyond the Narayana Conception") which mostly pointed out the dangers of sahajiyaism creeping into the Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya"

Dear Portnoy Prabhu, I searched for "Beyond the Narayana Conception" and variants but I could not find the article. The closest I got was this one: http://www.gaudiyadiscussions.com/topic_1865.html . Can you confirm if this is the one that you mentioned?

Let us read the Bhagavad Gita, the direct words of Lord Krishna and remember the Lord says again and again to rise above all dualities. based on like dislike, auspicious inauspicious, good bad.

BG 6:9

sadhushu cha api paapishu, sama buddhir vishishyate...even minded to those we think as sinners or saints.


Hari Bol Hari Bol.

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