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      CommentAuthormishra
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2007 edited
     
    If I was a devotee and did what it is being said here, granted by ignorance or fanaticism or whatever, I wouldn't dare to initiate anybody and/or accept honors. Not even on the thought of helping others or on the plea to serve Srila Prabhupada's mission, cause to be consequent with oneself is the prime duty of a person, what to speak of a vaishnava. And of course he would get my support in the sense that we all can commit mistakes, but not my allegiance and acknowledgment as being authority, that would be violence on my part.
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      CommentAuthorccd
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2007
     
    Yeap, its better to be a pot-washing bhakta, but then again you will be blamed of not doing anything when you could have saved others...
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    Hrishikesh asked:
    I would be interested to see these records. It
    has been 20 years. Will you look these up,
    Janmastami Prabhu?

    response: i have neither the time, the ability, the facility, nor the training to do this,
    but with all the lawyers there are in ISKCON, and as well as ISKCON pays them for their
    "services", i'm sure many of them will step forward and defend against this
    very real threat that has faced ISKCON for over three decades. wouldn't that be as
    pleasing to Srila Prabhupada for them to do that rather than just visit for prasadam?
    perhaps it is as turncoat FBI informants have reported, the FBI feels that the
    "Hare KRSNA"s don't pose a threat to anyone but themselves. this would be the perfect
    opportunity to turn the tables on these crooked lawyers masquerading as leaders and the
    opportunity is there for some individual or group of individuals to expose the long
    sensed connection between the Hare KRSNAs of ISKCON and the CIA. it would be very interesting
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    Most of the public are illiterates,worshippers of anything and anyone,as long as it shines or wear religious clothing,together with philantropic activities:example is Sai baba,that millions worship even if there's big suspicion/proofs of sex scandals and misappropriation of funds.This is even seen more in India,or less connected countries,but in USA and Europe,it's more difficult to cheat as people are more intelligent and scrutinizing,thus explaining the desertion of temples of America and Europe after the fall of gurus.Iskcon survives by the support of local hindus in such countries,and flourish in India.
    The recent discovery of the Documents of Management by Srila Prabhupada may revolutionise the whole movement,as it is the instructions of the Founder Acarya for his beloved Society.So we should support those who are working to implement HDG's instructions.
    • CommentAuthorKula-pavana
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008 edited
     
    janmastami dasperhaps it is as turncoat FBI informants have reported, the FBI feels that the "Hare KRSNA"s don't pose a threat to anyone but themselves. this would be the perfect opportunity to turn the tables on these crooked lawyers masquerading as leaders and the opportunity is there for some individual or group of individuals to expose the long sensed connection between the Hare KRSNAs of ISKCON and the CIA. it would be very interesting
    Based on the information I had many years ago from a mid-level counter-intelligence officer, as well as from direct personal observations of several fake name passports used by people connected to NV, the link between highly placed ISKCON devotees and CIA appears to be very, very likely.

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