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Social: should a confirmed child abuser sit on a vyasasana in this lifetime?

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      CommentAuthormishra
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2007
     
    or hold any managerial position, even if not official.
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    Anyone you know?Names plse!
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      CommentAuthormishra
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2007
     
    I an not interested in witch hunting here. Anyone with Internet connection can name the names.
    I want to know if there is shastric reference or argument, cause I know some people that just go for it and don't mind. Personally I see no justification, but I would like to hear others opinions in case am being wrong. You never know.
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      CommentAuthorccd
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2007
     
    Brahma was cursed not to have many temples.... any other examples?
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      CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    remember: to answer questions is the object of this site, not to start a political debate (again).
    http://www.pariprashnena.com/termsofservice.php
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      CommentAuthorabrennan
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    Mishra what do you mean by confirmed.
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      CommentAuthormishra
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007 edited
     
    proven by investigation, even confessed, beyond a doubt
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      CommentAuthorabrennan
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    So you mean confessed or found guilty by a court of law is that right?
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      CommentAuthorsitapati
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    Yes.
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      CommentAuthorsitapati
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    No.
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      CommentAuthorsitapati
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    Depends.
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      CommentAuthorsitapati
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     
    The third answer - "depends" - seems to me to be the most likely. I'm not sure what the actual purpose of this question is...

    A person who is fixed in their determination is to be considered saintly in spite of discrepancies. We're all been child abusers in past lives by this stage (anadi karama-phale). People can give up mental bodies, and in this case it is the same effect as giving up their physical body and taking a new one. We don't hold offenses from previous lives against people.

    At the same time, it can cause social disturbance when this happens, so we can make an argument that even a reformed and atoned person should not do it, simply to maintain a high standard. As Srila Prabhupada put it: "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion".

    Also we can look to the Manu Samhita with its admonishment for a brahmana who contacts a clay pot that once held alcohol to give up his body in ritual suicide. Why not just wait for the next body. But then again, why not expend this body preaching.

    There is no need to get on the vyasasana though, there are unlimited fields of preaching to commit ritual suicide in by charging enemy positions against unsurmountable odds. You could go and do harinam in South America or Africa, or preach from a small shop or house in a modern Western metropolis. The opportunity for service is unlimited.
    • CommentAuthordeena
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    Related GBC statement from this year:

    "Moreover, a devotee does not have to hold titles such as GBC, temple
    president, diksa-guru, etc. in order to advance-and to help others
    advance-in Krishna consciousness. And at times, it is necessary to
    restrict access to such official positions in order to protect the
    reputation of Srila Prabhupada and the integrity of his society.

    The GBC asks the members of ISKCON to give serious consideration to
    these reflections, and it begs for their understanding and cooperation
    as it attempts to balance the needs of individuals in ISKCON with
    those of ISKCON as a society.

    Clarification of the Term "Positions of Leadership"

    [Statement]

    1. Whenever the ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection rules that
    an offense is such as to restrict a person from serving in ISKCON in
    "positions of leadership" (including but not limited to offices of
    GBC, minister, zonal secretary or temple officer), the restriction
    must include the position of initiating guru. This restriction shall
    apply to all previous and future decisions of the Central Office of Child
    Protection."

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