it is just a mere question of knowledge and change, i would like the version of the Bhagavad-Gita by which Srila Prabhupada based his lectures on Bhagavad-Gita, if you have ever tried learning Bhagavad Gita verses then Listening to his Lectures you would find much change that is now in the new "revised versions" i mean no offence, it is merely for preaching and personal purposes only... read: http://jaganat.wordpress.com/2006/10/28/bhagavad-gita-changes/

As i said in my previous response, i want the Bhagavad-Gita Srila Prabhupada used in the many lectures he gave, read the article post above, and if nothing significant was changed, why change???

Thank you for that mishra prabhu, i would also like to state that i have no problem with the "new" Bhagavad-Gita, BUT i want Srila Prabhupad's Bhagavad-Gita AS IT IS! or shall i say, AS IT WAS...

i would also like to request that my inquery not be debated but if anyone has any suggestions please please please send me a link to it!

Hare Krishna

Srimad Bhagavatam original 3 vol.

bonus :)

mishra:

do you think there is a problem anupatha, like it might not be authorized or one could get the wrong philosophical impression with the original BG?
Is the revised one the only one to read, otherwise we could get confused?
Why you insist brushing off the inquiry? Just curious.

Why? Because as you surely know some "devotees" use this "CHANGED and EDITED Bhagavad-gita" arguments as support for their nonsense ideas, e.g. regarding legitimity of today's ISKCON gurus and GBC, and so on... I'm just saying the changes are insignificant and there's no need of excessive concentration on these superficialities.

Above referred article http://jaganat.wordpress.com/2006/10/28/bhagavad-gita-changes/ is disrespectful to HH Jayadvaita Swami and I really don't like it's unhumble tone. The only viable path for us is finding things uniting devotees and supporting their faith. Articles like this do just the opposite.

Imho, you are the one splitting parties with your comments here, Prabhu.
The main cause of damage to our movement are not the critics but the scandals in our own camp.
We do not need mindless followers, we need more whistle blowers, devotees with a conscience, to balance authority, otherwise we are doomed to become a religion.

keep on your guardian work, Prabhu. Some sinful leaders will benefit from your cover up.
I prefer to be on the side of the powerless abused devotees, speaking openly and, yes, publish in my blog others articles I find useful.
In fact, the danger in our movement is not caused by the bad apples, but by the people who looks the other way.
Thank you again for your "help", I rest my case here.

> "It is better to wash your dirty clothes at home."

This is only a common sense worldwide. I already mentioned that every sane organization/company tries to protect its reputation by fixing its problems internally (this is not equal to covering them up though) but some ISKCON members do exactly the opposite as if they enjoyed it (maybe they do, who knows). Nothing will be improved this way, only distrust and fear of accepting responsibilities will grow. This is already happening since in some places ISKCON is struggling to find enough local leaders. To 'kick those lying on the ground' (i.e. to criticize, ridicule, etc.) is an avaisnava attitude to me. I haven't seen this in mainstream Christianity or elsewhere. Imho, this is one of the significant reasons why devotees leave - they asked themselves a question: 'When I'll be in trouble, will I find help?' We need more helping hands, imho.

Dear Gopala Guru, you probably understand something wrong and supposedly it is caused by this inauspicious impersonal way of communication via internet. Nobody chastised you here. I just made a notice that it is not necessary to concentrate on superficialities like on some non-essential changes in BG. I didn't tell you that it is a problem you want to download it. Please, don't put in my mouth what I didn't tell. If nothing is a problem until it is made a problem, then why do you speak about problems? I don't see any problem here. When I saw your request about original and NOT EDITED Bhagavad-gita, I thought: Oh no, another rittvik is laying here common and well-known basics for his propaganda. We all know their agenda and it is really annoiyng to read things like that again and again. So I just asked why do you want to download it, to find out whether you are one of them or not. Thats all. I don't think you have to feel stricken by it in any way. If your intentions are pure, honest and clean, why is it for you so harming when somebody asks you about your intentions? Where is the problem you are talking about? It is forbidden for devotees to ask questions and discuss them? Why do you think that my question is not humble? I really don't understand the cause of your disturbance and I'm sorry you feel like that because of my question.

I'm really sad from your comment Mishra Prabhu. I don't know what to say. Maybe just: When there is lack of persuasive arguments, then remains only injuring others.. OK, for me that was enough. Thank you for your association here on the forum. Hare Krishna.

Antony, see the link posted by me above.

I prefer Jayadvaita Swami's edition because it makes the ritviks angry too. hehe

but it makes the ritviks angry doesnt it?
:)

oh, dont take it so seriously.

You're very welcome GopalaGuru prabhu. I'm glad I could be of some service to you. I too am not ritvik. Although I understand their views. If you are interested for preaching purposes, you can go to The Bhaktivedantas web-site, or Krishna.org. Their position is made quite clear and straight to the point. I'm sure this information will prove to be beneficial for you in your endeavors. Your servant, Priyavrata

To anupatha: How dare you say, "it's disrespectful to Jayadvaita", and you don't like the unhumble tone. First of all, who really cares about disrespecting the envious personality Jayadvaita after all the damage he's done. Prabhupada used to say that snakes should be killed. They're so envious. Secondly, it is yourself and Jayadvaita who are being disrespectful. You are disrespectful to Srila Prabhupada due to the influence of Jayadvaita's false ego. Jayadvaita has infected you, "his" disciples and many others with his envious mentality and bogus books. Your offensive attitude and nonsense statements epitimize an "unhumble tone". Here's a news flash for you Bubaji...Jayadvaita was always envious of all the "Big, Big devotees" of the day involved in writing, editing and publishing Prabhupada's books. Prabhupada would always encourage us to write books on Krsna Consciousness. He also said, "Don't put my name on them". No-one was trying to hault the attempts of Jayadvaita in his desire to write. The problem was that he wanted to put Prabhupada's name on them. Why didn't he translate his own BG and put his name on it? Because he knew that he would become laughing stock. No-one would accept it as bona-fide. He needed Prabhupada's name for so-called authenticity. There were many intense arguments for many years. Several law suits ensued, campaigns were set into motion, all these things and more were done in an attempt to prove Jayadvaitas so-called Sanskrit superiority over Srila Prabhupada. This started to create split's within ISKCON. He actually spent millions of ISKCON dollars in attorneys fees on an international level to make these changes take place. He was successful in that attempt. However, once his editions were printed and distributed the numbers regarding book distribution began to plummet. Jayadvaita is still that envious personality who's only interest is self glorification. I find your comments envious and offensive to Srila Prabhupada. I also feel very sorry for you. You have been bitten by the serpent and infected with his poison. It's most unfortunate. I will pray for your recovery.

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