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deena:On Book distribution: ISKCON Managemetn Guidelines: 521. Recognizing that Krishna will reciprocate by sending help, ISKCON leaders shall always cultivate and share the desire to distribute Srila Prabhupada's books, and facilitate their distribution as much as possible. 522. All resident members shall actively participate in distributing books or directly supporting book distribution as a part of their assigned service. 523. As far as possible, book distributors shall strive to collect double the cost of each book. The temple president shall see that 50% of income from book distribution goes to the BBT and the other 50% for temple maintenance. 524. The temple president and book distribution department head shall see that book distributors have: - proper vehicles that are relatively new, comfortable, and safe to drive - good quality, presentable shoes and clothing appropriate for the weather conditions - quality prasadam served warm and in a timely manner 525. ISKCON book distribution department heads shall: - make sure vehicles are serviced properly - assign designated areas for distribution to the devotees, avoiding confusing assignments and excessive distribution in the same area. - maintain good communications with traveling parties - obtain permission from appropriate ISKCON leaders where traveling parties are distributing - report temple book distribution scores to the national and/or international SKP newsletters. 526. ISKCON temple presidents and book distribution leaders shall encourage distributors to: - do their best and depend on the mercy of the Lord. - carefully maintain their devotional practices, physical health, and emotional well being - use only sales techniques that leave a favorable impression of Krishna consciousnessWould be good to see these guidelines enforcible....made into law?
deena:You mention the main temple in Brazil just closed. What happened? According to the following article of December 2008, "...current GBCs and other sannyasis...have spent the last several years working to revive and empower Brazil’s own leaders..."Not Rio....Sao Paulo temple had to close due to lack of funds (none or very little book dist. etc. relying on donations from devotees and guests)...they now have another temple which is fortunate but I am sure the closure could have been avoided if these basic temple guidelines were followed
mallikadasi:....or am I older and really becoming that cynical about people NOT changing their stripes?This part is correct :-)
sri_govinda_das:....but why do American devotees always attempt to change,or even attempt to improve on what srila Prabhupada has established as the standards of mood, behaviour and in this case our diets?I have to agree with this one....why all this veganism!! - obviously we are not organised enough at the moment to provide fresh milk and ghee etc. from our farms to the temples in the cities (well not in Australia), but that should not be a license to push the vegan agenda. Krsna likes ghee and butter and this is what we should offer Him.
rasa108:dweller-in-peace: "Not everyone can do this only men of courage and guts can do that, and these devotees need to be respected.No one is forcing anyone to be Vegan. It is individual choice." Anyone has such a quote?The famous vegan sloka comes to mind...
ccd:Jokes aside, actually you can not join a few NZ iskcon preaching centres/temples if one is not vegan... Vegan is a part of preaching there... they have some 17 people who joined like that, and they all have the same uniforms and same philosophy.rasa108:dweller-in-peace: "Not everyone can do this only men of courage and guts can do that, and these devotees need to be respected.No one is forcing anyone to be Vegan. It is individual choice." Anyone has such a quote?The famous vegan sloka comes to mind...
vaco vegam manasah krodha-vegam
jihva-vegam udaropastha-vegam
etan vegan yo visaheta dhirah
sarvam apimam prthivim sa sisyat
(Upadesamrta 1)
dweller-in-peace: Never heard such thing before. But how will you know if Krsna accepts the milk from unprotected cows and not from protected cows? More possibility is that he might accept the milk of protected cows. My guess is that Krsna accepts what is offered to him with love and devotion, that's the main ingredient which he seeks for rather than milk.Krishna is famous as the protector of cows, so if a cow is engaged in his service by supplying Him milk, how can that cow be unprotected even if the body of the cow gets sent to slaughter? Naturally devotees want to protect the cow's body and soul, but ultimately none of us can prevent the material body's destruction. The important thing is to engage every living entity in Krishna's service, which can at least prevent another birth. That is real protection.
dweller-in-peace:My guess is that Krsna accepts what is offered to him with love and devotion, that's the main ingredient which he seeks for rather than milk.This part is correct :-)
dweller-in-peace: It is possible to console the mind and overcome the guilt which comes from buying milk from super market by this thinking. But it is a cheap solution and the cheap solutions will never let the real solution come forward which is to have our own protected cows. It is very very hard to follow a rule such as drinking milk only from protected cows. It is a big problem because it is very hard to find milk of protected cows when you live away from ISKCON farm. I admire these devotees who have decided to stick to the problem rather than opting for cheap solutions.Because they are so determined they will have Krsna's mercy and their own protected cows and milk to drink.It may be very hard to follow a rule, but the important thing is whether it is a bona fide rule to follow. Obviously Srila Prabhupada wanted us to establish farms where cows are protected, but when did he ever say not to offer milk to Krishna unless it was from protected cows? If you want to make up your own rules for yourself, go ahead, but don't expect others to follow them.
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