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Anyone has a digital copy of Aindra Prabhu's book?

ccd — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:06:02 -0700

Can you guys see the http://www.voiceofvraja.org/ ? is it down or up or what?

Tomorrow is Janmastami and Vaishnava Calendar reminder sent me no reminder.Why?

ccd — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:04:31 -0700

I tried setting it up as you said, but could not spend enough time on it... will try again latter, thanks mung.

WHERE'S EVERYBODYS 50%?

ccd — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:03:19 -0700

[quote][cite] mung:[/cite][quote][cite] janmastami das:[/cite]you raise an intereseting counterpoint with the assertion ".We as the brahmins ", which some might take exception with. were it "we the Vaishnavas", there should be agreement, but this "we the brahmins" mood is both exclusionary to other Vaishanavs, the non -Brahmin Vaishnavs, and seems to put "brahmin" in a higher position than a ksatriya or a vaisha Vaishnava. many temples had such donation plaques on their wall, but that was before the days of private bank accounts. that was back in the day when everyones lot was the same. lot has changed since those days. some good, some not so easy to explain....

then there's always the old warning on the instruction manual:

And charity performed at an improper place and time and given to unworthy persons without respect and with contempt is charity in the mode of ignorance. BG 17:23[/quote]

Please ignore bhakti das, it is none other than the deranged "sri_govinda_das"[/quote] Actually his name is Yuga Avatar Das.

Tomorrow is Janmastami and Vaishnava Calendar reminder sent me no reminder.Why?

mung — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:17:03 -0700

I'm glad to be of service. I'd always wanted something like this in gmail but never figured out how to do it until I searched out the vaisnava calendar site you mentioned in your first post. so thank you :P

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

Braja Bhushan das — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:57:43 -0700

Hashama, maybe you could also try traditional Indian Gaudiya Vaisnava lineages that existed long before Srila Prabhupada brought GV to the West...

Who is Superior Guru or GBC?

halflion55 — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:51:49 -0700

sri Guru is not ordinary man.Official Guru is another thing.

Anyone has a digital copy of Aindra Prabhu's book?

halflion — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:43:18 -0700

Could u give us the name of that snior Prabhupada disciple,Deena prabhu?
Thanks.

are book changes OK?

VEDA — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:46:44 -0700

Editing means changes. Changes are explained in above sources and at http://bbtedit.com/quotes (authorization by SP)

are book changes OK?

jagannath — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:39:01 -0700

it is question of etiquette Veda.Prabhupad didn't want them changed.Period.Who cares what you or Jay Israel think,they are not your books!

Tomorrow is Janmastami and Vaishnava Calendar reminder sent me no reminder.Why?

jagannath — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:36:02 -0700

thank you mung ,this really is a great and reliable option and it works

are book changes OK?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:43:46 -0700

Oh, again. Already the first par of Govinda dasi's letter shows she doesn't know about the nature of errors (calling them 'typos'). My favorite example of Hayagriva-style changes is BG 15.12, where he got rid of 'only one sun in each universe' and the quoted verse BG 10.21 about moon being one of the stars. He didn't like these Vedic cosmographic concepts so they had to go. And Govinda dasi implies that it was under the personal direction of Srila Prabhupada. Go figure.

Who wants to know the changes let them go thru them. Well, few actually do it. It's easier to pick a political stance from proclamations by opinion makers, like the proverbial sheeple. But everyone can pick a version one wants to read.

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:12:50 -0700

You're welcome. These three books by Srila Prabhupada are the right ones to continue with after reading his translation of Upadesamrta. He also translated Isa Upanisad, one of the major Upanisads. There're also 14 Upanisads sometimes cetegorized as Vaisnava: Gopalatapani, Krsna, Narayana, Mahanarayana, Vasudeva, Nrsimhatapani, Kalisantarana (explanation of Hare Krsna mantra), etc. They're found online at celextel.org etc. Happy reading.

Jay Sri Krsna Janmastami!

Tomorrow is Janmastami and Vaishnava Calendar reminder sent me no reminder.Why?

mung — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:15:55 -0700

It should be the sixth option on the labs page.

If it's really not there I don't know how you would activate it. But if you set reminders in the notification section of the new calendar, you should at least be sent email reminders.

are book changes OK?

mung — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:01:36 -0700

http://bookchanges.com/iskcons-original-manuscript-scam/

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

All — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:20:19 -0700

Thank you very much Veda :). To my delight i have finished rereading the Upanishads by Juan Mascaro, penguin classics edition. Beautiful, and to my delight i have managed to dig out three books that i was given by my grandfather a few months ago. Bhagavad gita as it is by bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada, the science of self realization by bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada and krishna the supreme personality of godhead by bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada. so i have plenty to meditate and contemplate on and i have ordered Upadesamrta and look forward to its arrival :) peace and love xo

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:02:47 -0700

Yes. The author is Rupa Gosvami.

Krsna bhakti life after life - the ideal of pure Vaishnavas - was prominently taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His Siksastaka. Less known fact is that the same desire, beyond impersonal moksa, was proclaimed by Adi Sankaracarya in his Sri Krsnastaka (9):

yadA tadA yathA tathA tathaiva kRSNasatkathA |
mayA sadaiva gIyatAM tathA kRpA vidhIyatAM |
pramANikASTakadvayaM japatyadhItya yaH pumAna |
bhavetsa nandanandane bhave bhave subhaktimAna ||

O Lord Krishna! Please bless me so that I may sing your glories and pastimes, regardless of the position I am in. Anyone who studies or recites these two authoritative ashtakas will be blessed with devotion to Krishna in every rebirth. (Adi Sankaracarya: Sri Krsnastaka 9)

the whole text: http://www.hindunet.org/stotras/itx/krishna8.txt

Janmastami katha file:

http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/library/KrsnaJanmastami.zip

Happy Janmastami to everyone!

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

All — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:53:09 -0700

Veda, please tell me if this is the correct book you recommended for me :) thankyou xo

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

All — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:22:00 -0700

thankyou for your response veda :) i will read upadesamrta. Thankyou very much :) peace and love xo

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:59:23 -0700

Brahman is actually differentiated. Passive nirvisesa Brahman is one aspect, Paramatma (Visnu) another and Bhagavan (Krsna) is the original one. Krsna performs eternal pastimes and Vaisnava guru introduces the disciple to them so he can enter them even in this lifetime. Read our books to learn more, starting with small ones like Upadesamrta.

are book changes OK?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:49:40 -0700

He would for sure want his books as close to their original form. That the purpose of re-editions.

Where to find KC material pdf/audio/etc. for children on net?

VEDA — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:42:42 -0700

Strip versions: http://www.amarchitrakatha.com/

Is OK devotees enrol as Marines and fight?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:21:40 -0700

What if Parthasarati das shoots mother/father/brother of some Iraqi devotee or some sincere practicing Muslim trying to protect his family?After all we are all duty bound to protect our families/property and have every right to kill in order to accomplish it.

I would say that Prithu das (Pratha's former Guru) didn't know what he was talking when he instructed him to go to fight in Iraq.he would not be former guru if he knew what he was doing.

Moral of the story:do exactly the opposite of what the fake gurus say and you will do just fine.

Is this statement in the constitution draft dangerous for ISKCON society?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:32:50 -0700

[quote][cite] sitapati:[/cite]?????

atmavan manyate jagat

"One sees in others what is present within oneself"

Commentary on the motivations of others invariably says more about the commentator than it does about the person they are commenting on.[/quote]

Actually I wanted to quote you and not thank you.

Sitapati you clearly have no envy in your hearth.you see everybody as spirit soul and never see any fault in anyone.If fact I am sure if I was to come and punch you in the fave that you would do nothing coz you have no anger in your heart either.If I was to steal your money you would borrow some more from your family and give it to me coz you see no fault in others.You must be an uthama adhikary mate.What a bunch of crock!!! Sickening.

This guy Kula-pavana obviously has some really unhealthy conclusions about Srila Prabhupada that he doesn't mind spewing on public forum.I wander where he gets it from?

So according to you we should all sit back and watch Srila Prabhupadas character/example/teachings etc. assassinated by neophytes like Kula-pavana and and similar hordes and do absolutely nothing?Rubbish.

Kula-pavana ass was most likely eating meat a decade ago (or two at the most) and didn't know how to wipe off his arse and here he is passing judgements about the person who saved him:A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Maraharaj.It was not Narayan Maharaj it was Srila Prabhupad that saved most of us.Don't forget it you emasculate ingrates.Stand up and fight for what is right.

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

All — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:20:16 -0700

and how may someone go beyond brahman? :)

Is this statement in the constitution draft dangerous for ISKCON society?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:17:54 -0700

[quote][cite] Kula-pavana:[/cite][quote][cite] diyourself:[/cite]my question revolves around the "--> including but not limited to his (Srila Prabhupada´s) instructions and personal example <--" part.[/quote]

I personally do not have a problem with that - some things should change with time, because they if they are not working we should try something else.[/quote]

What exactly is not working with the way Srila Prabhupada set things up?Its just that we are not "working it" the way he told us to.

Perhaps we should also change Maha Mantra since it has obviously not worked for most of us(we are still in maya).How moronic!!!

Wait.Let me guess Kula-pavana ,you must be Narayan Maharaja's disciple?

Why don't we sit down and edit all of the NM books since they are obviously not working too.

What do you say?

He sure would be pleased with that......NOT!!!

should known criminals like convicted senior devotees be allowed in the temples?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:58:50 -0700

they should not be allowed to come to the temple if they committed any of the following offenses :

rape
+
child molesting
+
stealing money
+
adultery /sodomy/stealing others people's wives

=most of the fallen or (some)current ISKCON gurus and GBC's and many of their followers

In other words,if you got all of the criminals (convicted and non-convicted ) to stand up,there would be very few people sitting.

are book changes OK?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:34:52 -0700

This question is wrongly formulated.The question should be:Would Srila Prabhupada want his books changed?

The answer is: Of course NO!!!

And there is ample evidence that he would be furious about it too.

If I take initiation in ISKCON today - what can I expect?

All — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:34:39 -0700

Thank you for your timely response VEDA :). Your response leaves me with a question. What is the relationship between guru and disciple if not brahman? This is a sincere question :) i am not the kind of person to ask many stupid questions just to try and trip people up. I ask out of sincerity :). Thank you for your response. I love you all :).

What is spiritual abuse and how to deal with it?

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:27:56 -0700

Spiritual abuse is getting initiated in ISKCON only to find out a decade later that you were initiated by despicable faggot that masturbated daily and took your money money and service all along while thinking that he was best thing since the sliced bread.pfui

Socialising with non devotees

jagannath — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:22:25 -0700

One of my acuaintances is a muslim fellow who used to smoke and drink and have very unregulated life.I took time to tell him about what Muhamad preached (knowing that he was not ready to hear about KC.Now he goes to the mosque every day and prays 5 times per day.He stopped smoking ,drinking and even became little inquisitive about KC.

My wife and I fed him prasadam.He saw our Lordships Sri Sri Gaur Nitay and Tulasi devi but I never spoke to him about KC in the context of Vasihnavism.I spoke about God consciousness in the context that he could appreciate and we found this approach working.

We could have repelled him by talking about something that was way over his head at the time.

To summarize: if you genuinely care about your friends you will seek for the way to help make their lives more meaningful by truing to point them in Krishna's direction

If you wish to judge them,look down upon them thereby cultivating the pride in yourself you can do that too.

preaching means treating others the way you would like to be treated.giving proper example,being compassionate,all inclusive,trying hard to save the drowning souls and expecting nothing in return for it,not even their acceptance.